Carolyne Barber's a very interesting lady. She has over 30 years of nursing experience caring for sick and dying people in many countries around the world. She's also a talented award-winning photographer who sees and captures all sorts of miracles of nature and uses her images to inspire those she cares for. In this podcast we also talk about sudden loss - particularly in light of the horrific Grenfell Tower fire and the tragic terror attacks in Manchester and London. Finally we conclude by asking Sister Kathleen Mary, assistant manager of St Anne’s Care Home for the Elderly in London, "Who cares for the carers?"